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ksjoatPosted 07/23/12 01:03PM Send a private email to ksjoat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
I have a lamb that went through a week of scours. I finally got that cleared up and now he is bloating. I have tried pretty much everything I could think of. Pulled him off feed and just fed hay, baking soda, probiotics, apple cider vinegar, another overeating shot, mineral oil. Our ag teacher suggested putting soap in the water, a bloat block or changing feed. Does anyone have any ideas?

 
EmsoffLambsPosted 07/23/12 02:03PM Send a private email to EmsoffLambs. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
How old is this lamb? Are you wet feeding? How far away is your show? And how is the lamb bloating? Does he just get a big belly but still eats well and feels fine? Or is he bloating and foaming and going off feed?

 
ksjoatPosted 07/23/12 02:39PM Send a private email to ksjoat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
He is 6 months old. Have been wet feeding for quite some time. His bloating is not a real bad bloat, usually even on both sides, maybe a little bigger on the left. He isn't foaming at the mouth and is eating well. He did seem worse today than usual. When he was scouring I had him cultured and he showed just a small amount of coccidia in his stool so we got some Marquis to put him on. I had given him one dose and gave another yesterday. I wonder if that could have made it worse? He will be shown this fall, so we really need to be putting the feed to him.

 
SheepSimPosted 07/23/12 06:25PM Send a private email to SheepSim. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Are you sure it's not just a full rumen?

 
GW2Posted 07/23/12 07:06PM Send a private email to GW2. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Try drenching him with Penicillen and then come back with fast track or probias in about 24 hrs to get his rumen right.

 
ksjoatPosted 07/23/12 07:33PM Send a private email to ksjoat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
I talk to the initial vet that looked at him when he was scouring and he thinks that the Marquis could definetly be causing the problem. He suggested putting him on hay for a week. Not really what I wanted to hear, but don't really want a dead lamb either.

 
N2winPosted 07/25/12 08:18PM Send a private email to N2win. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Don't mean to contradict your vet But marquis doesn't cause bloat. It only kills coccidia not bacteria which the lack of beneficial bacteria is probably causing the bloat along with the ph of the gut being out of balance. If your adding vinegar (acid) and baking soda (basic) your trying to go both ways and that's going to make things worse. What's worked best for us is 1/2 tsp baking soda 1/4 tsp tide dry laundry detergent per feeding with regular feed but feed grass hay not alfalfa You may have to do this for several weeks. I would also use a good probiotic such as start up gel and gold spike. Don't use any more vinegar!

 
bearkatPosted 07/25/12 10:31PM Send a private email to bearkat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Tide? That's a new one on me. I would agree with the baking soda. We have one that we feed about 1t per feeding and it keeps him in line.

 
thelambsweatPosted 07/25/12 10:43PM Send a private email to thelambsweat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
You can use detergents, they break the surface tension of water (stomach contents). When bloated the contents in the stomach / rumen is filled with thousand gaseous bubbles and is difficult for the animal to vent. When detergent is introduced it bust the surface tension of the bubbles and releases the gas. Most commercial bloat treatments are mainly; you guessed it soap.

 
bearkatPosted 07/25/12 11:23PM Send a private email to bearkat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
I'll be darn. Makes sense though.

 
ksjoatPosted 07/26/12 11:23AM Send a private email to ksjoat. Changed 07/26/12 11:25AM
He is on Gold Spike. The vet suggested the baking soda. I don't know about the Marquis, but he sure started up with the bloating both times I gave it. He is not a happy lamb right now. Really wanting some grain. I may try the Tide and baking soda when I put him back on grain. We have used the soap on wheat pasture cattle for years, just never have used it on lambs. It works well on the wheat pasture bloat.

 
califmomPosted 07/26/12 11:36AM Send a private email to califmom. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
I wonder if the Tide would make a lamb's burp smell more pleasant? Sorry I had too..
Seriously am glad that was shared I never thought to use detergent.

 
TarletonGirlPosted 07/26/12 11:49AM Send a private email to TarletonGirl. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
We had to take our calf to a gut specialist in Bryan one year because he bloated on hay which is very unusual sometimes he bloated even when it was covered in mineral oil ... he had something internal that swelled occasional(like when he layed down..) and pressed something that caused the bloat reaction- cant remember is was quite awhile ago.

 
DownWithHairPosted 07/26/12 02:17PM Send a private email to DownWithHair. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
It could be that the lamb just doesn't agree with the marquis. Certain Feeds can not agree with some lambs, people are the same. Are you doing anything else when you do marquis? Other meds, supplements, anything that it doesn't have normally? Not feeding something? If it were mine I'd stop doing marquis.

 
ksjoatPosted 07/26/12 03:18PM Send a private email to ksjoat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Definelty not giving any more Marquis. I just have alfalfa hay around right now but I think I will get some grass hay. He looks real full even on the hay.

 
thelambsweatPosted 07/26/12 03:44PM Send a private email to thelambsweat. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
It's possible that he may have suffered enough damage from the coccidia causing enough scar tissue to prevent his digestive system to function properly. Or like downwithhair suggest some animals have reactions to certain things. Have you talked to the vet about an anti inflamitory such as Predef 2x or Dex? Good luck.

 
DaddylonglegPosted 03/12/13 01:44AM Send a private email to Daddylongleg. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
How do u get him up and moving

 
DaddylonglegPosted 03/12/13 01:45AM Send a private email to Daddylongleg. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Help!

 
DaddylonglegPosted 03/12/13 01:45AM Send a private email to Daddylongleg. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Help!

 
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DaddylonglegPosted 03/12/13 01:48AM Send a private email to Daddylongleg. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
We are losing him fast we don't think he will make it

 
EmsoffLambsPosted 03/12/13 07:34PM Send a private email to EmsoffLambs. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Why don't you tell us what's happening. We can't tell from your post.

 
alwaysbrokePosted 03/12/13 07:47PM Send a private email to alwaysbroke. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
Is Daddylongleg joking?

 
sheep1Posted 03/13/13 03:49PM Send a private email to sheep1. Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM
I had one similar, turned out the wet feeding was the issue. Water and feed on the large intestine. Feed falls to bottom, water stays to the top, scours and bloat. Went through the same gammit you did. Stopped wet feeding this one and scours stopped and bloat did too. Just my experince with one out of thousands I`ve fed wet

 

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