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|hmm||Posted 08/20/12 12:08PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Don't know what policy is... here's one for submission.. AOB ewe lamb- weight 155.
|OG||Posted 08/20/12 01:04PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|hmm..Ems' can answer your question better than I however, as a OSS judge I perfer a profile view that shows all four feet on the ground and the person taking the picture standing far enough away that you can see the entire lamb and aim the camera directly in the direction of the last rib....three quarter shots distort the true length of side... for the rear view, stand directly behind the lamb at a distance that you can see the entire lamb with camera held high enough that you can see width and rack shape, as well as loin width and shape and depth of twist... pictures taken on trimming stands are okay, however, the lamb looks better if posed braced with all four feet touching the ground with legs and feet properly placed square under the corners... From a personal standpoint I appreciate pictures taken the same day with the same handler and same photographer...OG|
|DownWithHair||Posted 08/20/12 06:08PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Nice ewe lamb!|
|Sheepherder007||Posted 08/20/12 06:52PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Needs to be SLICK sheard|
|hmm||Posted 08/20/12 08:15PM Changed 08/21/12 09:50AM|
|she is slick sheared, if you can't tell... as tight as a 17 straight will take one- leaving leggins and a topknot...
scratch the idea for the OSS, I don't have any other pictures.
ETA: after looking at several classes online-- you have to be kidding right? Have you ever seen these classes and the aboundance of wool?
Need my glasses?
|EmsoffLambs||Posted 08/20/12 08:30PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|You can enter these. They are as good quality as many of the entries we receive. Instructions for entering are found here: http://onlinesheepshow.com/entry.htm
At this time I can only accept emailed entries. Since you already have the photos posted here, I can use them, but please still email the requested entry information.
|hmm||Posted 08/21/12 09:50AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|the mylamb community would be shocked to know this lamb's pedigree-- especially the ole boy from TX.
|EmsoffLambs||Posted 08/21/12 10:45AM Changed 08/21/12 10:45AM|
|I'll bet we all already figured out she's an oxford. ;)|
|hmm||Posted 08/21/12 11:47AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|obviously... I'm talking the ram she's sired by...
Gives an indication of the prepotency of the female side.
I leased my wethery buck out to a kid from IN this fall. he'll breed 10-20 Poe influenced hamp wether ewes, and I expect some interesting lambs to result next spring.
|SnarkyArkie||Posted 08/21/12 03:58PM Changed 08/21/12 04:03PM|
|af32198||Posted 08/21/12 09:58PM Changed 08/23/12 09:38PM|
|belambs2||Posted 08/21/12 10:50PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|She's good. But not good enough to be that disrespectful to everyone on here. |
|af32198||Posted 08/21/12 11:06PM Changed 08/23/12 09:38PM|
|TXsheepRaiser||Posted 08/22/12 12:56AM Changed 08/22/12 12:56AM|
|lmao it never ends|
|holliterman36||Posted 08/22/12 01:44AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|She looks round in her loin edge, a tick tight and deep in her forerib, and a bit open at the top of her shoulder. In addition she has unsightly wrinkles over her loin and it may just be the pictures but she appears to be a little shorter coupled than I like my ewes. |
|hmm||Posted 08/22/12 06:44AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|holliterman36: I knew you couldn't stay away!
shes out of your favorite ram too... the big gutless wonder so you say, the one that won his class at Louisville 2 years ago.
she's not great, and she's been living a life of grass (well really hay, we don't have any grass) and pellets.
She's geared for slick sheared sheep production, not wether sheep production.
I don't want to 'ruin' the breed ;)
|af32198||Posted 08/22/12 07:14AM Changed 08/23/12 09:38PM|
|hmm||Posted 08/22/12 08:23AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Doesn't have any in her that was made around here- I know the old Indy buck had wether sheep in him though... Purebred Oxford as far as I'm concerned- 5 generations of my breeding behind her.|
|holliterman36||Posted 08/22/12 10:49AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|I did it just for you Jody.|
|ksjoat||Posted 08/22/12 12:28PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Heck I thought she was a shrop. LOL |
|westtex||Posted 08/22/12 01:29PM Changed 08/23/12 09:25AM|
|Put her in one of my classes Crystal...I have about had my fill of this clown.|
|thelambsweat||Posted 08/22/12 01:49PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Now that's funny!|
|hmm||Posted 08/22/12 03:09PM Changed 08/22/12 03:15PM|
|ksjgoat... I sheared her fuzzy off, so it will grow back and look fresh for Louisville.
|af32198||Posted 08/22/12 04:20PM Changed 08/23/12 09:39PM|
|hmm||Posted 08/22/12 04:47PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|or visa-versa... I'm not going to lie...
Or columbia, or southdown, or visa-versa.
or suffolk, or dorset, or many other crazy, un-thought of breeds... It's all in there..
Face it, not a purebred sheep left in this country, and most certainly not one involved somehow with showing.
is the production of NS sheep more of a concern than the production of crossed up purebreds?
I suppose one kills, the other doesn't...
|af32198||Posted 08/22/12 04:56PM Changed 08/23/12 09:40PM|
|farmtown8kid||Posted 08/22/12 05:45PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|He be trollin....
|Shoein||Posted 08/22/12 06:15PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|^ HAHAHAHA! Ridin dirty! |
|lm1668||Posted 08/22/12 09:39PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Hmmm, very true. Breeds are even more of a farce in wether sheep. Only truly honest sheep in the wether show are in the cross classes. Honest about breed that is :)|
|killbuck||Posted 08/23/12 06:18AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Nice little fun family show thing Y'all got going here.
Judge just begging to publicly torch a sheep in class.
|DownWithHair||Posted 08/23/12 09:08AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Kinda what I was thinking....don't give two hoots who it is.|
|westtex||Posted 08/23/12 09:35AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Ok, I appologize and Crystal has more sense than to do that anyway. Sarcasm does not show up well in print. However there are certain people who are continually negative on here, do not want to conform with what we are trying to teach kids in order for them to be successful in the club lamb rings across the country, and are openly critical of judges or judging styles. Funny I call it as I see it and get criticized, however the frame, commercial or specialty breed guys can muddy the water for these kids all they want and that is fine. |
|lm1668||Posted 08/23/12 10:41AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|The introduction to this site says its for breeding sheep and market lamb project members alike. It's suppose to be where they can get answers from some of the top club lamb AND purebred sheep breeders around. The real problem is when we expect people to conform to our thoughts. This site has become a click where people seek the approval of others to back their beliefs and then the majority attacks the non conformers. Most thoughts that aren't popular will go away if not antagonized. The truth always sorts itself out. JMO|
|EmsoffLambs||Posted 08/23/12 10:50AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Alright, here's my take on this. Yes, I do have more sense than to give Vance the sheep after a comment like he made. However, I do believe that Jody didn't post the lamb here to get it entered in the Online Sheep Show but rather to get a rise out of all of us. Why else would he post the pictures here rather than just asking how to enter them? 10 year olds have been able to figure out how to properly enter pictures in the Online Sheep Show.
Now, I've only recently heard the term troll in the internet context and I looked it up on Wikipedia yesterday. Here's what it says about trolls: "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure...Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns...A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community."
I'd sure say Jody fits this description. He posts inflammatory and downright disrespectful comments and gives bad, even dangerous advice, gets kicked off, comes back under a different username, sticks around long enough to gain a little trust and then repeats the cycle. How many times has this occurred? A good half dozen at least. I personally find it pathetic that someone would keep sneaking back to a place where clearly no one wants him, but when I read this, I realize it's a pathological anti-social behavior.
With all this said, the advice to ignore him once again seems the best course of action. He wants a rise out of everyone. Feeding into that is just giving him what he wants.
|SnarkyArkie||Posted 08/23/12 11:02AM Changed 08/23/12 11:06AM|
|Vance, I appreciate someone that says what's on their mind much more than someone that says it behind your back. At least that way you can take a step back and try to become better person, breeder or showman. In Jodys case I don't think it much matters, but there are those of us that do try to use the advice and don't think we know it all. Jody has been a pain in the can for far too many years on this site. Most of us know not to pay him much mind, those that just find the site might be more influenced by his comments. |
|westtex||Posted 08/23/12 01:02PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Guess I did not realize who Jody was or his guise when I posted that statement. Just the comments on this and the post about Jordan, kinda got my ire up. Guess it does not take too long for a persons character to show up. Lee, I am not anti-purebred, as showing breeding sheep is going to pay for a good bit of my kids education. I certainly agree with your last two statements. However, I feel certain that giving good advice and selecting the right types of sheep to perpetuate a flock is why the online classes continue to improve and hopefully our readers projects are as well. It sickens me to see lambs and/or breeding sheep that should be in a commercial flock or at the sale barn sold to new beginning feeders as projects because they simply do not know better and vultures are out there willing to inject their sheep in a kid or family for a little profit over the market price those sheep are worth. A new family having a bad experience has two options...live to fight and improve next year, or they get out of the program and we never see or hear from them again.
Now I have completely bit on this and given the "Trolls" exactly what they want. By the way Crystal thanks for explaining that to me. I am sure OG and I are too far out of the technical loop to have ever gotten that.
|hmm||Posted 08/23/12 02:20PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|I guess I don't get the whole 'showing sheep for college money' thing.. I've been through it myself.. Showed at more shows, with more sheep than most kids do at my age.. 30 county fairs a summer, 3 state fairs, and 100 sheep to each county fair. I ended my junior career, barely breaking even at the end-- even with 50 some brood ewes to my name.
Kids showing have 2 options the way I see it:
Buy your lambs, buy your feed, do the work-- barely break even at the end of the summer, and pocket some extra money from your 'premium sale'. Enough to buy next year's lamb usually, give or take.
Parent's buy your lamb, parent's buy your feed, you do the work, and you get to keep all the profit from showing, and the sale of the lamb. But what does that do? Why don't the parent's just pay for college?
|logthumper||Posted 08/23/12 02:33PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|So their kids do something productive besides antagonize people on a message board.|
|af32198||Posted 08/23/12 02:55PM Changed 08/23/12 09:41PM|
|fmc77||Posted 08/23/12 03:10PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Jody, maybe if you packed better sheep to the fairs you went to, you wouldn't need to pack 100 head. I know plenty of people that have a living showing less sheep, they can do this by showing good/great sheep, not every sheep in their area they go find good ones. So do yourself a favor and spend more time making your sheep better, finding better ones, and less time posting under another name every 6 months. |
|hmm||Posted 08/23/12 03:16PM Changed 08/23/12 03:24PM|
|Funny how John found the pictures from the history page of our website. Most typically, history pages contain the original (quality) lacking sheep and work their way up to the present to show progression of quality.
Here: to get a better understanding of what's CURRENTly going on- check this link out folks:
Hey Mike- sad as it is... We've won our share at county, state and national shows.
I used to clear 1k a week showing that many sheep, that was the days of $1. corn, and $2. fuel.
ETA: You'd better reread my comments above 16 posts if you think, that I think- or know of my sheep being 'pure'.
|af32198||Posted 08/23/12 03:30PM Changed 08/23/12 09:42PM|
|af32198||Posted 08/23/12 03:36PM Changed 08/23/12 09:42PM|
|SnarkyArkie||Posted 08/23/12 03:37PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Jody, I vaguely remember looking at your "wins" a year or so ago that you often brag about. Single entry classes and classes of 9 with all 9 being your sheep is not much to brag about considering one of your sheep HAS to win by law of probability. Maybe thats why you chose to show Oxfords... for lack of competition. Everytime you have come here, people including myself look at your site to see if you made any improvements that warrant your constant bragging. Looks to me that your sheep are still suffering from Noazatol. |
|af32198||Posted 08/23/12 03:47PM Changed 08/23/12 09:44PM|
|hmm||Posted 08/23/12 04:24PM Changed 08/23/12 04:25PM|
|I haven't been to a county fair, since the year before we quit going to IL.
Laugh all you want, that little skinny buck, lived all winter on bean stubble, and CRP hay with 4 mature rams more than a foot taller than him.
For arguement's sake-- b/c I like doing so. Here's a picture taken about 2 weeks after the one you posted- You'll say he's got wool grown back- but check out his armpit-- still there.. about 3 weeks worth of wool, and green grass...
Does Vance even have sheep anymore? I didn't think 2 or 3 counted as owning any?
I'm not sure where you people think that I'm trying to raise wethers, or wether style sheep? That's the most rediculous thing I could do--
|ksjoat||Posted 08/23/12 04:58PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|I so don't get this thread. I know one thing, those sheep sure have the shag. |
|hmm||Posted 08/23/12 05:08PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|John Wibben...haha... small world.. what you don't know about me.. I know about you.. scary really...|
|af32198||Posted 08/23/12 06:37PM Changed 08/23/12 09:37PM|
|hmm||Posted 08/23/12 07:10PM Changed 08/24/12 06:41AM|
|You know my name- o boy...
I don't hide any identity, everyone knows who I am- and I'll share any contact info they'd want to get ahold of me.
Do you even raise sheep, Every winner I've ever seen your daughter Lauren have was purchased- Cole, Horner, Harms, shrock, etc.
|EmsoffLambs||Posted 08/23/12 08:07PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Seriously? You don't hide your identity? No that's funny!|
|TXsheepRaiser||Posted 08/23/12 08:49PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|john probably goes to other shows that actually have classes for his breed lmao|
|hmm||Posted 08/23/12 09:00PM Changed 08/24/12 09:15AM|
|B/c I'm done here, and like to have the last word:
|SnarkyArkie||Posted 08/23/12 09:15PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|What kind of dairy cows are those on your photbucket account?|
|killbuck||Posted 08/23/12 09:33PM Changed 08/23/12 09:36PM|
|I'm not a fan of hmmm, his posts, or his sheep.
I'd like to point out you all like to say he's immature and boorish, and yet many exhibit simular or worse behavior on this post.
If I was a new parent and saw this, my kids would never be allowed on this site.
Like I said before: classy....kinda like the "links" page.
|af32198||Posted 08/23/12 09:36PM Changed 08/23/12 10:28PM|
|hmm||Posted 08/23/12 09:53PM Changed 08/24/12 09:16AM|
|Milking Shorthorn, or MS crossed onto a couple other dairy breeds.|
|DonD1||Posted 08/23/12 10:16PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Administrators - time to kill the thread|
|PeteM||Posted 08/23/12 10:27PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Kyhampbreeder||Posted 08/24/12 07:28AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
| I disagree. Once a thread is deleted no one can can look for themselves and decide for themselves what the purpose and intent of some posters really is.
Trolls will always be on message boards. As Crystal noted just don't feed them !
|CoonHunter||Posted 08/24/12 08:02AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|this has gotten funny. A lamb posted and you see i havent posted a comment on it either positive or negative. Man i will say that lamb is the best i have ever seen but would put a dime of my feed in it. It looks to hang the most quality carcass just not in my meat house. i bet the wool would make a good sweater but i wouldnt wear it. Hope ya get my point. |
|killbuck||Posted 08/24/12 08:47AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Multiple trolls on this thread/site.|
|SnarkyArkie||Posted 08/25/12 12:34PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|"I'd like to point out you all like to say he's immature and boorish, and yet many exhibit simular or worse behavior on this post.
If I was a new parent and saw this, my kids would never be allowed on this site"
so a few people that are otherwise very helpful, respectful and positive on this site 99.9% of the time respond negatively to this clown on this single post and THATS the reason you wouldn't allow your kids on this site?? Nevermind the negativity Jody spews on several posts every time he comes back, or the incredible amount of misinformation given by "experts".
I don't allow my kids on this site unsupervised because its hard enough for us less experienced adults to sift through the good and bogus information let alone let my kid think he can trim hooves with a pair of scissors or washing lambs with bleach to rid fungus. I used to recommend this site to a bunch of kids which I no longer do. I do recommend this site to the parents but with a disclaimer to research all advice outside of a few people that I do trust to give correct information, some of them have posted above. Thanks to those people, we have learned to sort the good advice from the not so good.
I think there is value in Jody's knowledge but who can stand his arrogance long enough to actually get to that value?
|enough||Posted 08/25/12 01:17PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Chuckles450||Posted 08/25/12 01:39PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|I haven't been on this site long do I don't feel like I have a ton of room to talk, but I do have something to say. However I will say that Snarky and Ems along with a few other much appreciated individuals have helped me learn more in a few months than I did in years of showing and breeding. I for one appreciate their willingness to stand up to, and point someone who would spread misdirection amongst people like myself. So thanks guys, and keep it up.
adj. snark·i·er, snark·i·est Slang
1. Rudely sarcastic or disrespectful; snide.
2. Irritable or short-tempered; irascible.
The ONLY one of these words that described Mr. Kendrick is MAYBE sarcastic.
|PeteM||Posted 08/25/12 01:57PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|enough is the new handle. LOL|
|bigbonesnshag||Posted 08/25/12 02:06PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|darren sarcastic?guess thats being sarcastic?
i noticed jodie got booted from the fb sheep forum for rudeness.
|killbuck||Posted 08/25/12 04:01PM Changed 08/25/12 04:06PM|
|I'll stand by my statement and let you think what you want to think.
I will assume you missed the posts (now changed or swiped clean) that took a rather dark turn.
|hmm||Posted 08/25/12 04:52PM Changed 08/25/12 04:55PM|
"Those who cry the loudest- often get heard first".
|KassiesMom||Posted 08/25/12 06:05PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Jody's comments might be mean and childish, but so are the majority of the "regular" posters here. I quit commenting because I am tired of the rudeness and immaturity of a lot of folks on here. Kids and parents get on here looking for help and have been ignored or have been given some pretty bad advice lately, but let someone say something against the clique and it gets lots of attention.....or better yet let one of the clique complain about something and lots of support it generated by the rest of the clique. People on this board have lost sight of what this site should be for. Perhaps that's why this place is a joke to many in the show world. The old saying is true.....when you point a finger at someone else.....you always have 3 pointing back at you. Those good folks on here.....keep your heads up and thank you for helping and supporting so many through out the years. Those haters, fire starters and ones who think they are the greatest thing since the wheel was invented need to re-examine their lives a little if they want to hang around this site.|
|hmm||Posted 08/25/12 08:54PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|true to that.|
|SnarkyArkie||Posted 08/26/12 02:47AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
Rude?? Normally I try to avoid rudeness but ocassionally someone can figure out how to bring out my New Jersey attitude. Nothing personal
|CoonHunter||Posted 08/26/12 06:28AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|"I hate rude behavior in a man. I wont tolerate it."
Woodrow Call, Lonesome Dove.
In the Message box you can use special indicators for formatting, if you wish. Here is how to <em>emphasize</em> your text. Or, you can <u>underline</u> areas of your messages. Or, use <b>bold</b> to really make a point.