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| wyllie | Posted 08/19/12 10:09AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
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| iheartsheepgirl | Posted 08/19/12 10:10AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | Make them afraid of backing up.
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| wyllie | Posted 08/19/12 10:20AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | I would be concerned on making it scared to get in the ring if done too much or do we need to do this until it stops backing up all together?
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| iheartsheepgirl | Posted 08/19/12 10:28AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | My personal opinion, and in my experience, a good showman won't need to make a lamb back up in the ring.
At home, when they back up, back them into walls, fences, trees, people, off a retaining wall, shearing stand et cetera until they become afraid of being pushed against something. That's how you get lambs to brace.
If the lamb is getting set and starts to drive and backs away I would evaluate the showman's leg positioning because more often than not, if you've got a novice showman on a lamb that can brace and does brace for someone else, its the showman that's doing something wrong.
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| SHADOWRAN | Posted 08/19/12 10:32AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | The only time I saw a judge back up a animal was a steer and he wanted to see if anyone knew the right way, they didn't.
jim
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| wyllie | Posted 08/19/12 10:42AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | iheartsheepgirl
when you talk about leg placement what do you mean. my doughter never had this issue but the young lady showing with this issue is in her send year. she does go in and out of bracing pressure on the lamb and i am trying to get her to stop this because that is one reason i think the lamb backs up.
are you suggesting her leg is being placed in an area that is causing discomfort for the lamb?
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| wyllie | Posted 08/19/12 10:58AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | i might have confused some on this topic. the lamb when in a brace works to pull out of being braced by dropping its shoulders and then backs up. i do not want the shower to be able to back a lamb up.
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| susanna313 | Posted 08/19/12 11:24AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | have you tried getting someone behind the lamb and having them tap on dock to keep him moving forward? this is what they were doing at lamb camp at texas a m with my grandaughter's lamb who was doing the same thing. they would get someone to tap on her dock and have my daughter just walk backwards while the lamb moved forward until the lamb naturally would want to go forward then she would set her back up and she most of the time would stop backing out of the brace. still working with her on this but it seems to work.
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| susanna313 | Posted 08/19/12 11:25AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | it kind of teaches the lamb to always move forward instead of backwards
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| wyllie | Posted 08/19/12 11:35AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | walks fine but when the lamb is lined up with the judge watching it pulls out of the brace by backing up. lamb doesnt want to be braced so it tries to pull out by backing up
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| texasgurl | Posted 08/19/12 11:06PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | Are you doing the death grip on the lamb? When my southdown used to back up I figured out I was doing the death grip on her and I fixed it then also I was holding her head way up and she didnt like that so fixed that too and backed her up against the fence and she stopped backing up.... so it could be how your holding its head....
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| TXsheepRaiser | Posted 08/20/12 12:33PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | if he is pulling down and trying to back away he is either very uncomfortable or just being stubborn.. Work on your hand and leg placement.. use your inner thigh and just hold the head, do not pull on the head or play with the ears.. Just keep being repetitive and he will learn soon enough
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| lambmom101 | Posted 08/20/12 10:22PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | Push him backwards all over the yard, fast. He may just keep walking backwards for a little bit. Just keep pushing him backwards till he kinda hops on his back feet and pushes back into you. This has worked for us. Also pushing him back into a wall has worked for us. Do it over and over and he should catch on if hes just being a pain.
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