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| af32198 | Posted 07/06/12 03:57PM  Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Did a little driving around Illinois this morning. If the weather continues like it has been in the Mo,IL,In, SE Iowa and Ohio area feed costs are going to be in the stratosphere. 102 deg today, 103 tomorrow and no rain in the ten day forecast. Corn is in pollination stage now so it won't make much difference if it starts raining in August. Corn and soybeans already in short supply and things are going to get worse. Need to be lining up your feed supplies now cause grain is going to be as hard to buy as hay was a year ago in the west and southwest. Wish every one good luck. Going to be another tough livestock year.
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| ODAYS | Posted 07/06/12 05:15PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Around here it is nearing critical stage Hay all types production is at 25%. Last year literaly sent thousands of loads of hay south this year nothing moving and cost already at 220 a ton plus for alfalfa. Thats double a normal year I Believe that is good advice bite the bullet NOW it is going higher.This area eastern South Dakota supplies alot of hay to other areas.
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| bigiron59 | Posted 07/06/12 06:08PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | Or things things always look worst, just before the turn. I believe corn was down .24 today,Cash here did not run up last week as fast, they just widend the basis and took protection. Hay here has been 200 to 300 per ton for last 4 years. so market may be over bought on drought fear.Kinda reminds me of 1988. Top was the 3rd of July that year.
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| RyThurston | Posted 07/06/12 07:01PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | booked 800 bushels of barley @ $5.30/bushel 2 weeks ago!
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| mikey75 | Posted 07/06/12 07:23PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Aflatoxin is what's worrying me right now in Oklahoma. We need rain pretty soon to calm my worrys on this years corn crop.
You boys up north might actually have aflatoxin this year.
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| bigiron59 | Posted 07/06/12 09:50PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | feed very little corn, so not so worried.
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| af32198 | Posted 07/13/12 06:43PM Changed 07/13/12 06:45PM |
| | Never have seen the corn crop look this bad over such a large area! Rain at this point is not going to change the situation much for a lot of farmers!
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| SnarkyArkie | Posted 07/13/12 07:12PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | Got about a dozen late lambs still on free choice creep in an unfinished barn. 54" cattle panels surround it. Been yelling at the kids last couple days for not keeping the feeders full and started following up after they fed. Never let us down before, but thought maybe the kids were getting lazy. Last night came home to find 3 deer in our unfinished barn and eating at the feeders while lambs were huddled in the corner. 150 pounds of creep feed for 12 lambs in 12 hours had me stumped. Ar. Game and fish advised pelting deer with paintballs, baiting the deer to electric fence with peanut butter on foil strips connected to fence, tie one of my dogs(that have never been tied up for 10 years of living here) in the barn. Basically everything to inconvenience me or my dogs or abuse the deer. Seems the wildlife commission might want to take the drought in consideration. Couple of locals have had same issues in their barns too. So not only are we fighting extreme drought, we are fighting to keep wildlife out of what feed we DO have.
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| bigiron59 | Posted 07/13/12 10:23PM Changed 07/13/12 10:31PM |
| | snakie. I belive in the 3 s's when dealing with wildlife. shoot, shovel and shut up. We have a nice compost pile. as do most of my nieghbors. None of us have issues's with dogs, coyotes, deer or any other unwanted "strangers". Few years ago, one of those "collared mountain lions" was spotted in the area. Of course DNR "denied" any thing. But when that cat went "missing" they were all about looking for him.They finally admitted to bringing some in to help with Deer control.At the time, since it was covert op, they were not listed as protected here, so could be shot as vermin. This one was, and they did find collar, but no cat.Now they are protected, but bet most would be shot on site.Few years ago. we had a buck that would stay in my shed during the day, eat with my ewes or in neghbors feedlot during the evening. Breeding season would drive the rams nuts. He would run the ewes, then jump the fence when rams gave chase. DNR would do nothing, so he disappeared as well.
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| redroper | Posted 07/13/12 10:29PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | I traveled Southern and Central Illinois earlier this week. I thought I had seen some of the worst corn I had ever laid eyes on...until I went east into Indiana, near Crawfordsville.
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| SnarkyArkie | Posted 07/13/12 11:18PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Bigiron, just thought for a change I would see what g/f would say. 10 years ago, called g/f on a deer that appeared blind, lost and just amiss. They said shoot it and if I could get it to a check station that would be great but if not, just erradicate it. This year, they wanted to send out a commitee to evaluate my operation and my fencing maybe come up with a plan of action at my expense to aid in getting rid of this lead deer that brought in the rest. Perhaps someone hit the deer on my road because they didn't show up tonight after about 4 days feast. And there's still about 25 pounds of this mornings creep feed left. God bless good drivers. ;-)
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| RyThurston | Posted 07/14/12 06:05PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Lol snarkie!
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| mudflats | Posted 07/14/12 06:34PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | on electric fence thread wire thru small salt block [ small round ones used for rabbits ? have hole in center of them] works well here and inexpensive to use
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| jd820 | Posted 07/15/12 11:18PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | i think the deer would be disappearing from the feild and showing up in my freezer
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| af32198 | Posted 07/30/12 10:05PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Deer will all starve to death soon!
http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2012/07/30/corn-soybean-prices/
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| DownWithHair | Posted 07/30/12 10:44PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | I was Watching the chew today on abc. It was a corn themed show and they were talking about corns effect on meat prices in this drought...Michael symon(iron chef) piped up saying that since corn is in short supply and high prices, he hoped there would be more grass fed beef reaching our plates. We feed too much corn you know!
I about died...really, does he think grass goes without water? I wrote up a polite, but to the point note that I emailed to him through his company. Told him short n sweet where he was wrong and to not make comments about agriculture if he isn't well informed because it is easy to shed a poor light. Also told him to contact radke or anyone at Beef Magazine for accurate information regarding the industry.
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| g1974 | Posted 07/31/12 10:31PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | we will only get aflatoxin in the corn if it starts to rain is what I understand
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| jd820 | Posted 07/31/12 10:39PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | wont stop raining here about daily for 3 weeks now
corn here looking good
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| SnarkyArkie | Posted 07/31/12 10:59PM Changed 07/31/12 11:00PM |
| | Shuddup jd! 
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| jd820 | Posted 07/31/12 11:27PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | sorry
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| DonD1 | Posted 07/31/12 11:46PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
|  | Darren, all your rain has to go somewhere. Was looking at the hay this morning and our 3rd cutting should go about 10 more days but if we cut it today it would be the most we've ever had for 3rd cutting. Meanwhile, so many have just been torched with the lack of rain. Too bad that it seems one of our best years of weather is at the expense of much of the country.
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| TXsheepRaiser | Posted 07/31/12 11:47PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Cotton is doing AMAZING right now in our part of the world.. Thank god we got the little rain we needed for the corn and sun flower crop to produce well results
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| SnarkyArkie | Posted 08/01/12 12:31AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | All we are growing here is desperation... and occasional barn cough. I even watched the movie Rain Man thinking that might help. All that did was make me realize we have 233,608,462,876,913,505 dead blades of grass
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| DownWithHair | Posted 08/01/12 08:41AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | This year was better than last for barn cough on my lambs, but the ones that got sick...got sick sick. In the barns at shows it was 10x worse, I was just all over keeping mine as isolated as possible. We are pretty desperate here as well. Right now as we close in at about 30 bales of small squares left, we are looking at heading to Kentucky or a friend in Iowa for hay. Kentucky has squares and rounds for way less than we can touch them here. Also looking at going to Florida for peanut hay. Either place we go, we are looking at taking a big flatbed or a semi...maybe even both if we can find them.
Our hay is looking pretty good all things considered, but everyone knows it is in short supply. There are guys here already asking $10 for small squares and $100 for rounds. Found stuff in Kentucky for $3.50 small squares and some big rounds less than $50. This is in bit money horse country too-between Louisville and Lexington.
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| ChristianCowgirl | Posted 08/01/12 09:36AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Our hay burnt up a long time ago, and we foolishly started feeding hay back in May to try to aave some pasture. We are having some hay brought in from North Dakota. But we have already had the good folks from the city pay us a visit. They cleared us of our yearlings and they will be back for our oldest does. We are keeping two does and their female offspring from this year and that's it for goats. Just not enough to go around. The sheep stay fatter on less so they are okay now. Don't even want to think about what we'll do for the horses.
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| ksjoat | Posted 08/01/12 12:33PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Our corn is doing pretty well, but with temperatures over 110 all week, it will probably start to suffer. Ours is all irrigated. Talk about a nasty bill.
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| DownWithHair | Posted 08/01/12 01:46PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | I feed about a bale a day right now to 4 large ponies(all are showing and in training, plus one is just 2 so she eats a boatload) and a total of 16 sheep (show lambs, yearlings, rams, and brood ewes that are up with ram). Thank goodness for decent hay in the barn right now and a very reasonable feed dealer. I can see us feeding grain pretty hard all winter to cut back hay.
Our corn is fried....there will be a little bit, but not very much. A sales rep from south of Chicago said some farmers around him PLOWED CORN UNDER this week! There reason is nobody close has a baler! A couple combines have been out around here, rumor has it a field has been shelled and sold at 17.5% moisture and another was started shelling at 31%.
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| jd820 | Posted 08/01/12 10:01PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | i paid 2.50 a bale for some second cut today from last year but i been buying hay from this guy for 12 yrs same hay to any one else would been 3.50
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| bigiron59 | Posted 08/02/12 09:29AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | don't know where you live JD820, but hay here is 7 to 10 a bale and has been for couple of years, for any good hay. Corn stalk small bales are 2.5 to 3 per 35 lb bale and that is the cheapest small bale you will find in my area.
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| TXDorperShepherdess | Posted 08/02/12 10:02AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | Our situation in north texas is bleak..we are still reeling from last year's drought..and now, with no rain and 112 degree temps..the hayfields are fried. Got a decent first cut, but with the lake levels so low, the irrigation system was not turned on..we wont get another cut unless the sky opens up within the next few weeks.
We bought 2 loads of beardless wheat rounds and still have leftover rounds from last year, when I went hay crazy..wintering the cattle will be OK..sheep too I think. Needing to locate some horse rounds now..may make a trip to Kentucky for that. We quit feeding free choice, I pull off what I need to feed the equines..we just dont have the storage for 600 plus square bales at our place.
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| polymom1 | Posted 08/02/12 05:26PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | I know Don. My husband says we may get 4th crop hay in some places. We were contacted by someone in southern MI for hay. They were paying $10 for a small square or $500 a ton. It just breaks my heart to hear of the terrible situation in so many places.
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| jd820 | Posted 08/03/12 12:08AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM |
| | many feilds around me in PA people try to give away to bale and nobody will usually ends up mowed down in september and let it lay
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