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|EmsoffLambs||Posted 06/17/12 09:28PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
The placings of the last class are posted. Not a lot of winners, but the placings were all over the place, so not surprising. Thanks to Jimmy for sorting a tough one!
And now, just to keep things fair, OG has in my opinion one of the toughest classes we've seen in a while. Three different breeds in this one. Good luck!
|OG||Posted 06/17/12 10:59PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|If I remember correct from my livestock judging team coaching days when considering a breeding class made up of different breeds you used as a part of your selection criteria the breed that most correctly identified with the ideal for that particular breed... I'll probably keep that in mind with the placing of this class, however, I do believe this is a very placable class made up of individuals with a lot of positive traits...as usual, I maybe my initial placing from my first observation, will sleep on it for a day or two and then revisit the class and make the final placing..Great class..thanks to the exhibitors and Crystal for making it challenging...the more challenging the class, the more we all learn about the selection process...Great job Jimmy on the previous class...OG |
|jimmydavis||Posted 06/17/12 11:55PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Thanks Gail. Thought I might see you at Parker Co. Heard you classified. Went down to watch with Robby Blakley and Wes McCurry.
|EmsoffLambs||Posted 06/18/12 12:06AM Changed 06/18/12 12:06AM|
|I take that back... Four different breeds. In light of OG's comments, I went back and added the breeds to the current class.|
|OG||Posted 06/18/12 11:26AM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Crystal..I'm glad you noticed... as I ws writing my original post I did say I'm not classifying the class, however, I would call it 4 breeds, a Targee,Dorset,Hampshire, and Med-Cross, however, I was concerned the one I'm referring to as a Med-Cross, the owner/breeder might call it a Hamp, therefore, I erased my post....in any case it's an interesting class, one that will be fun for me to sort through and hopefully several participants will agree with my placing...I'm sure if some don't I will be called out, however, that's okay too...sometimes the post class banter is where we learn the most...OG|
|belambs2||Posted 06/18/12 12:02PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Thanks Jimmy Davis for the placing in class 229. I'm pretty excited to see what kind of babies we get out of her next spring.|
|DonD1||Posted 06/18/12 12:21PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Sure shows how much the emphasis has changed. Ten years ago what would the chances be of a 4 breed class not having a Suffolk.|
|PeteM||Posted 06/18/12 12:50PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Don it is sad. We almost switched out our Shrops for suffolks last year but Mary Beth could not part with some of her good shrop ewes and then we had one of her lambs make the sale at San Antonio. I beliive that they have a purpose. The blue fad just about done them in I'm afraid.|
|OG||Posted 06/18/12 01:12PM Changed 00/00/00 12:00AM|
|Don. You are correct, the emphasis in the production of medium wool breed market club lambs has really shifted. I'm sure the states that still show market lambs by breed classification still see some suffolk market lambs, however, in Tx. we basically have a 4 breed format, 5 if the show has classes for Hair breeds, in our mkt lamb classes. These breeds are Fine Wool(basically Rambouillet) Fine Wool Cross(Basically the first cross between a Fine Wool and a Medium wool breed)..in Tx. about 99.9 percent of our FWX'S lambs that will meet classification standards will be the first cross between a Fine Wool(Rambouillet and Hamp or Hamp/Suffolk med. cross ram)... most breeders of FWX'S in Tx. do not use Suffolk rams, for several reasons including shag(wool below the hock and knee) Suffolks have hair below the hock & knee, not wool...Rambouillet have wool below the hock and knee, not hair, therefore, it's easier to get a lamb from a FW bred to a Hamp or Hamp type ram by the classifiers because of the wool below the hock and knee...FWX'S lambs that are sired by Suffolk ram are sometimes pretty devoid of wool below the hock and knee, therefore, more difficult to classify.
Then our third breed is Southdown which is a medium wool breed, but, due to the size and stature is a stand alone breed.
That leaves our fourth breed of mkt lambs medium wool. 15 years ago the Suffolk breed made up a pretty big percent of this breed classification...20 years ago, I would estimate the medium wool mkt. classes in Texas would contain 45 to 50 percent straight Suffolk, another 40-45 percent Med. Cross(Suffolk/Hamp) and maybe 10 % basically straight Hamp. A few years ago Hair Breeds were added, mainly Dorper, and it's now just catching on in popularity.
I would bet now at our Tx. majors where several thousand hd. of market lambs are entered in the medium wool division, you will not find 100 hd. of straight Suffolk...You will not find 20 hd. of straight Dorsets among those thousands of hd.(you will find several Dorset/Ramb cross running as FW wethers or Dorset, Dorset/Ramb cross X Hamp running in the FWX'S divisions...and, yes, sometimes these spooky Crosses do get by classifiers and go on to be ch and res. in their respective breed divisions...
Very interesting observation Don. What has brought about the decline of the Suffolk breed, especially in the S/W would be an interesting topic for later discussion...OG
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